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Don’t Ask That in Church!

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Do you ever feel sidelined at your church? Everyone going about their business, actively participating in programs, teaching Sunday School classes, men’s groups, women’s groups, kid’s activities, you name it. You want to be involved, but you have that feeling in you, that you can’t share what you want to talk about, or bring up your thoughts or ideas, because nobody else gets it. Do you feel like you can’t bring up certain subjects to your pastor, or your Sunday School teacher, because they just brush it aside? It’s because they either don’t understand it, don’t think it’s important, or are just flat out uncomfortable getting into it.

You faithfully go to church every Sunday, go to your class, and it seems like every day, it’s the same mundane, cursory lessons. Constantly going over the basics—the milk. You’ve tried changing classes, more than once, but you just can’t seem to get into a group that’s interested in the meat. Lessons seem to be selectively simple, picking out passages that repeat the same basic, entry-level Christian concepts. Subjects like sharing the Gospel with others, loving one another, sin and repentance, living our daily lives as a witness, etc. Not that these aren’t important topics, don’t get me wrong, the Gospel is by far the most important topic. But as a general rule, if you’re a born again Christian, you should already know the Gospel.

So why is it when you bring up for example, eschatology, the topic usually gets dismissed with a nice smile and a “that’s a lesson for another day” type response, but then it never happens? Why can’t we bring up and discuss topics such as the Antichrist, end times prophecy, false teachers, the New World Order and the harlot Church, that’s being built right before our eyes? Everyone just wants to act like there’s nothing going on, and just get on with their daily lives. But it’s eating away inside some of us, who really need to be able to talk about these things with other Christians—other Christians who share the same interests on an intellectual level, and really want to dive deep into it. We want to know who the Nephilim are, and do they still exist today. We want to talk about how the Papacy relates to the New World Order, and how false teachers in our churches and denominations are helping to build this world system. We want to discuss topics like “who was Melchizedik,” was he actually pre-incarnate Jesus, or just a type of Christ? What about freemasonry in the church? Don’t you know that freemasonry is a Luciferian cult, and it’s running rampant within both the Evangelical as well as Catholic church? What about the Jesuits, and their influence on the Evangelical church. Why is this never talked about? What about the Serpent Seed theory? This is a heresy that seems to be gaining vast popularity, but try asking your Sunday School teacher about that one. Chances are, he’s probably never heard of it. Why don’t we talk about how the New Age cults have managed to creep their old pagan ideas into the Church, and transform the church into a speeding vehicle for apostasy? Most of our church members have no idea what type of eastern mystic Satanic pillars are behind practices like Yoga or Contemplative Prayer, yet these are things that just aren’t talked about. In many cases, these things are subtly promoted through false teachers like Beth Moore, Ann Voskamp and Tim Keller, within even the best of Bible-believing churches, simply because people aren’t discerning, or just don’t take the time to do any of the research. Why? Because most people are comfortable where they are.

When my (at the time, Catholic) wife and I first (re)started coming to our church a few years ago, my wife asked our Sunday School teacher (and deacon), in a Southern Baptist Church mind you, why Baptists don’t baptize babies, and why they only baptize adults. His response, paraphrased: “I think it’s because the the Bible requires it for church membership, and it’s because Jesus commanded us to.” Well, you can imagine how my wife took that response “seriously.” It was at that time I knew we needed to find another class right away, in which we did, and eventually her questions were answered, and she was saved after hearing the Gospel preached by a faithful teacher. Nonetheless, even the most faithful of these teachers have their limits, and still won’t seem to touch these outer edges. It’s a sad state when Christians have to turn to internet forums and groups to get their spiritual meat.

We recently did a course in my church on Wayne Grudem’s book, “Christian Beliefs: Twenty Basics Every Christian Should Know.” Well, basic was definitely the right word. It was so basic, so boring that I couldn’t hardly hold my eyes open during the class. And this was the advanced “Pastor’s class.” I don’t want to make it sound like the pastors at my church are intellectually inferior in any way, trust me, they aren’t. But it seems like the general consensus is that the members in the church need this basic milk, which is probably true, but there just isn’t enough interest to set aside classes or groups for members who need more. But I know I can’t be the only one longing for that, there must be others. But I just can’t seem to find them. Everywhere I go, people are just so satisfied with where they are spiritually, and aren’t longing for that meat.

The fact is, in most churches, intellectual Christians get shunned, they don’t fit in, and many ultimately end up leaving the church altogether. If a Christian doesn’t feel like they are being spiritually fed, and can’t find a place to be spiritually fed, this is a problem. I’m not talking about unbelievers who deny the Gospel, and deny Christ. I’m talking about true, born again Christians, who have serious questions, and want to be spiritually fed on a deep level. They long for understanding, acceptance, and validation, but just can’t seem to get that in church. But God gave us an entire Bible full of commands to seek out and study a vast array of topics, including what most would consider fringe topics. God created us in his image, with an intellect and a need to share in relationship with others. He gave us his Word, the Bible, with the basic essential doctrinal topics clearly laid out for us, but he also gave us the other, not-so-clear topics so that we could exercise our intellects, and get to know Him better. It keeps us focused on him, interested in him, and close to him. I believe that’s why he reveals himself that way. It keeps us longing for more of him, and for some of us, much much more.

According to “The Encyclopedia of Biblical Prophecy” by J. Barton Payne, there 1,817 prophecies in the Bible contained in 8,352 of the Bible’s verses. There are 31,124 verses in the Bible, making prophecy approximately 27 percent of the Bible. Now, how often do we study prophecy in the Church? Hardly any, especially prophecies that haven’t been fulfilled yet. Without study, and clear teaching and understanding of these prophecies from solid Bible teachers, pastors and elders in our churches, this opens the door for false teachings to take over. That’s the problem, there are more false teachers teaching prophecy than solid Bible teachers, and this is where people are getting their spiritual meat. The solid teachers are just telling people to stay away from the subject, and not to worry about it. But the Bible says otherwise. The very fist passage, verse 3 of the Book of Revelation says “Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.” So why aren’t our pastors reading and teaching it out loud? Why aren’t we studying this in Sunday School classes? Why aren’t students being taught these subjects in seminaries? Why don’t more Christians care? Unfortunately, I think part of the problem people don’t take it seriously is because they don’t truly believe it, but also for many more, they just don’t get it. Sadly, our teachers are robbing God’s people of the blessed hope by ignoring it.

And we have something more sure, the prophetic word, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, – 2 Peter 1:19


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